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Cannot wait to hear your thoughts as a Fs5 owner I’m very excited.
Thanks Alister. We’re spoilt for choice this year. Nice to have some silver linings in such a torrid covid year.
Please do see an entry level cinema camera will have BNC TC I/O! Makes life a little easier to work with that camera, as a sound mixer.
Pleased to see an entry level cinema camera will have BNC TC I/O! Makes life a little easier to work with that camera, as a sound mixer.
Hi Alister,
Since the FS-RAW system for the FS5 (among others) is designed around SGamut and S-Log2, is it right that this 16-bit RAW output on the FX6 is designed around SGamut3.cine and S-Log3 (also given that the FX6 has a dynamic range of 15+)?
The reason to use S-Log2 in cameras like the FS5, FS7 etc was to ensure the camera and sensor were correctly optimised. With the cameras that don’t have S-Log2 I’m certain that these will be optimised when you are using S-Log3. The raw itself does not have a gamma curve.
As an FX9 owner I am excited for the FX6, however I feel slightly betrayed by Sony that they require a $2,500 USD extension unit to enable raw recording. The FX6 can do that out-of-the-box” over it’s dedicated SDI at half the price. Is this a feature Sony could offer in a future firmware update?
Curious to hear people’s thoughts. Is the Q+A session recording posted anywhere online?
It’s a hardware issue. There is the same difference between the FS7 and FS5 (and on these cameras the FS7 raw is better quality than the FS5 raw). This is almost certainly not something that can be changed with firmware.
We know the FX6 has the new A7S-III dual core image processor. We know it does not have a floating sensor but does the FX6 have the S-III’s aditional “electronic” in-camera image stabilization?
There is no “electronic” stabilization in the FX6. But it does have Sonys post production metadata stabilisation system for highly effective and adjustable stabilisation in post production.
Interesting! The S-III’s software based stabilization does crop in. I’m told that it also uses the in-camera gyro data stream to shift the image live. It’s not as good as post stabilization but it is still reasonably effective and it’s at least done live for you.
The Sony post stabilization is very good because it give you more latitude to make light or heavy adjustments. I wonder why Sony left this feature off the FX9. Maybe we could see this in a future update?
Doing it in camera is OK, but you have no control and can’t ever undo it.
The FX9 was the first camera to have the metadata stabilisation feature and it’s extremely good.
Alister,…what are your thoughts on why the S-III and FX6 have their dual gain circuits spread soooo far apart? (the original S-III firmware had 640/16,000…thankfully somebody at Sony changed the final release firmware to 640/12800)
On the FX6, the “low” 0d is pre amped to equal 800 ISO. The “high” 0db is pre amped to equal 12800 ISO. To me, this seems to be somewhat crazy. This causes the middle and upper end of the first stage circuit to have way more noise then it needs. 4,000 – 10,000 are pretty bad. Shouldn’t Sony lower the second stage preamp gain to equal 4,000-6,000 ISO instead? I think the FX9 and Lumix S1H have more reasonable dual gain preamp values. 4,000 ISO fills the image quality “gap” that exists on the top end of the first stage. Yes, that would sacrifice all the crazy “25,000 ISO” values, true….but who uses those anyway? I’d MUCH prefer to have 800-6,000 range that has no severe gaps in noise performance.
I’m inclined to agree. Not really sure where you would use 12,800 ISO and log. It seems extraordinarily high. But there is very little extra noise at 12,800 and you can always add some ND to mimic lower ISO’s.
I think the second 12,800 ISO will come back to bite Sony as many users will assume you no longer need to control your light and will get amazing looking shots in the middle of the night. User will go out and try to shoot under no light and blame the camera when it looks crap. What always gets forgotten is that it’s contrast that makes good night shots. And when the camera is ultra sensitive it can be harder to get the shadows to fall away as any foreground light will need to be carefully managed to prevent it lighting up the background.
having said all of the above I am looking forward to going to shoot the northern lights with it.
Hi, if I choose to turn off, optical stab. on the lense and shoot fro gyro data, and do in post. Can I set the shutter to any number I want ? I will, in very shaky, f.eks on skiing. like to set it to lets say in 30 fps, set shutter to bethween 60 and 100, to aviod to much blureffekt, can I do that, or just fixed numbers ?
You can use any shutter speed you want. Optical stabilization must be turned off in the camera menu.