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Colour Management In Adobe Premiere Pro

30 Years of Rec-709.

Most of us are familiar with Rec-709. It is the colourspace for standard dynamic range television that was introduced in the early 1990’s. Most of us have been working with and delivering Rec-709 content for the past 30 years.

Because Rec-709 has been around for so long, the majority of the editing and grading software that we use defaults to Rec-709. Rec-709 has a limited dynamic range and a limited colourspace. It was designed around the TV technologies available in the 1990’s when Cathode Ray TV’s were still dominant and LCD screens were nowhere near as good as they are today.

But things are changing. 

Most good quality phones, tablets, laptops and TV’s on sale today support bigger colourspaces than Rec-709. And most can now display high dynamic range HDR images. Streaming services such as Netflix, Amazon, Hulu etc are all streaming HDR content. Even YouTube and Vimeo fully support HDR. Eventually HDR will become completely normal and Rec-709 will fade into obscurity. 
But right now we are in a transition period where a lot of content is still mastered and delivered in SDR but at the same time there is a need to deliver more and more HDR content.

Colour Management.

One way to make this easy is to use colour management in your editing and grading software. In a colour managed workflow the editing/grading software will try to determine the colourspace of your source material  by reading the metadata contained in the file. Then it will determine the required delivery colorspace, usually based on the setup of your monitor or you can tell the software which colourspace you want to deliver your files in.

The software then converts from the source colourspace to the final output colourspace. The end result is that regardless of the colopurspace of your source footage, it will look correct on your monitor with the correct contrast and correct colour saturation. All your grading adjustments are applied to your footage in it’s original state which maximises the final image quality. This also makes it possible to change the output colourspace from one colourspace to another without having to change the grade – one grade can be used for many different output colourspaces. All you need to do is to change the output colourspace setting. 

OK, it isn’t always quite as simple as that – you might need to make some fine tuning adjustments to your grade if you switch your output between HDR and SDR. But overall, if you grade something correctly for HDR and then switch to an SDR output, it should still look pretty good and this greatly simplifies your workflow if you need to deliver in both HDR and SDR.

S-Log3 is not, and never has been flat!
 
S-Log3 and other log formats should never look flat. The only time they look flat is when there is a miss-match in the colour space between the material and the way it is being viewed.
 
S-Log3 in a Rec709 project looks flat because of this miss-match, this is NOT how it is supposed to look. But because in the early days most software only supported Rec-709, S-Log3 always looked wrong and as a result looked flat. In legacy workflows where there is no colour management the most commonly used solution to make S-Log3 look right is to add a LUT. The LUT transforms the S-Log3 to Rec-709 (and perhaps adding a creative look at the same time) so that the contrast and colour now looks correct.

Need To Deliver In HDR.
 
But we are now starting to need to deliver content in a lot more standards than just Rec-709.  HDR10, HLG, Rec2020 etc are now common and LUT’s designed to go from S-Log3 to Rec709 are no use for these alternate colourspace outputs.
 
So, most of the editing and grading software platforms we use are moving to colour managed workflows where the software detects the colourspace that the source material is in as well as the colourspace you are monitoring in and then automatically transforms the source material to the correct output colourspace. This eliminates the need to use LUTs, your footage will always look correct. This way all your grading adjustments are applied directly to the source material without being restricted to any particular colourspace and you can change the output colourspace to different spaces depending on what you need to deliver and you don’t need to change the grade for each alternative output.
 
By default in the latest version of Premiere Pro colour management is normally disabled, but some earlier versions enabled the colour management by default.

Enabling Colour Management.
 
To enable colour management in Premiere Pro 2025 (version 25.0 and later) go to the Lumetri panel and  under “Settings” “Project” enable (tick) the “log auto detect colour space” setting. Now Premiere Pro will detect the colourspace that your footage was shot in and colourspace transform it to you projects output colourspace. It is also worth noting that there is an additional setting that allows you to select the correct viewing gamma for the desired output, whether you are making content for the web or for broadcast TV.
 


If you want to deliver in HDR a bit further down in the settings you will also find the ability to change the timelines working colourspace, under these setting you can quickly change the timeline from Rec-709 to Rec2100 PQ (HDR10) or Rec2100 HLG for HDR. Changing this setting will change the working and output colourpace – note that if the colourspace of your monitor does not match these settings the image will not be correct – for example if you are using a Rec-709 monitor and you select Rec-2100 PQ the viewer images will appear flat.
 

If using a computer with a colour managed HDR screen, for example a MacBook, you will also need to allow Premiere to manage the computers Display Colour Management so that the viewers are displayed in the correct colourspace and then enable Extended Dynamic Range monitoring if the monitor is capable of displaying in HDR in the Lumetri settings under “Preferences”.


Be aware that if you allow Premiere to manage your colourspace this way you will no longer be able to use the majority of the LUT’s designed for S-Log3 as these LUT’s include a colourspace transformation that you no longer need or want. But – now you are free to deliver in both SDR and HDR without having to create different grades for each.

The colour management in Premiere is still somewhat basic, but it does work. But it’s very difficult to use the colour management and LUTs at the same time. Personally I much prefer the colour management in DaVinci Resolve which has a lot more options and the ability to add additional colourspace transformations as part of the individual grade used for each clip. This allows you to add LUT’s designed for a huge range of different colourspaces within different overall colour spaces.


Premiere Pro 2022 and Issues With S-Log3 – It’s Not A Bug, It’s A Feature!

This keeps cropping up more and more as users of Adobe Premiere Pro upgrade to the 2022 version.

What people are finding is that when they place S-Log3 (or almost any other log format such as Panasonic V-Log or Canon C-Log) into a project, instead of looking flat and washed as it would have done in previus versions of Premiere, the log footage looks more like Rec-709 with normal looking contrast and normal looking color. Then when they apply their favorite LUT to the S-Log3 it looks completely wrong, or at least very different to the way it looked in previous versions.

So, what’s going on?

This isn’t a bug, this is a deliberate change. Rec-709 is no longer the only colourspace that people need to work in and more and more new computers and monitors support other colourspaces such as P3 or Rec2020. The Macbook Pro I am writing this on has a wonderful HDR screen that supports Rec2020 or DCI P3 and it looks wonderful when working with HDR content!
 
Color Management and Colorspace Transforms.
 
Premiere 2022 isn’t adding a LUT to the log footage, it is doing a colorspace transform so that the footage you shot in one colorspace (S-Log3/SGamut3.cine/V-Log/C-Log/Log-C etc) gets displayed correctly in the colorspace you are working in.

S-Log3 is NOT flat.
 
A common misconception is that S-log3 is flat or washed out. This is not true. S-log3 has normal contrast and normal colour.
 
The only reason it appears flat is because more often than not people use it in a miss matched color space and the miss match that you get when you display material shot using the S-log3/SGamut3 colorspace using the Rec-709 colorspace causes it to be displayed incorrectly and the result is images that appear to be flat, lack contrast and colour when in fact your S-Log3 footage isn’t flat, it has lots of contrast and lots of colour. You are just viewing it incorrectly in the incorrect colorspace.

So, what is Premiere 2022 doing to my log footage?
 
What is now happening in Premiere is that Premiere 2022 reads the clips metadata to determine its native colorspace and it then adds a colorspace transform to convert it to the display colourspace determined by your project settings.
 
The footage is still S-Log3, but now you are seeing it as it is actually supposed to look, albeit within the limitations of the display gamma. S-log3 isn’t flat, it just that previously you were viewing it incorrectly, but now with the correct colorspace being added to match the project settings and the type of monitor you are using the S-Log3 is being displayed correctly having been transformed fro S-Log3/SGamut3 to Rec-709 or whatever your project is set to.
 
If your project is an HDR project, perhaps HDR10 to be compatible with most HDR TV’s or for a Netflix commission then the S-log3 would be transformed to HDR10 and would be seen as HDR on an HDR screen without any grading being necessary. If you then changed you project settings to DCI-P3 then everything in your project will be transformed to P3 and will look correct without grading on a P3 screen. Then change to Rec709 and again it all looks correct without grading – the S-Log3 doesn’t look flat, because in fact it isn’t.

Color Managed Workflows will be the new “normal”.
 
Colour managed workflows such as this are now normal in most high end edit and grading applications and it is something we need to get used to because Rec709 is no longer the only colorspace that people need to deliver in. It won’t be long before delivery in HDR (which may mean one of several different gamma and gamut combinations) becomes normal. This isn’t a bug, this is Premiere catching up and getting ready for a future that won’t be stuck in SDR Rec-709. 

A color managed workflow means that you no longer need to use LUT’s to convert your Log footage to Rec-709, you simply grade you clips within the colorspace you will be delivering in. A big benefit of this comes when working with multiple sources. For example S-Log3 and Rec-709 material in the same project will now look very similar. If you mix log footage from different cameras they will all look quite similar and you won’t need separate LUT’s for each type of footage or for each final output colorspace.

The workaround if you don’t want to change.
 
If you don’t want to adapt to this new more flexible way of working then you can force Premiere to ignore the clips metadata by right clicking on your clips and going to “Modify” and “Interpret Footage” and then selecting “Colorspace Override” and setting this to Rec-709. When you use the interpret footage function on an S-Log3 clip to set the colorspace to Rec709 what you are doing is forcing Premiere to ignore the clips metadata and to treat the S-Log3 as though it is a standard dynamic range Rec-709 clip. In a Rec-709 project his re-introduces the gamut miss-match that most are used to and results in the S-Log3 appearing flat and washed out. You can then apply your favourite LUTs to the S-Log3 and the LUT then transforms the S-Log3 to the projects Rec-709 colorspace and you are back to where you were previously.
 
This is fine, but you do need to consider that it is likely that at some point you will need to learn how to work across multiple colorspaces and using LUTs as colorspace transforms is very inefficient as you will need separate LUTs and separate grades for every colorspace and every different type of source material that you wish to work in. Colour managed workflows such as this new one in Premiere or ACES etc are the way forwards as LUTs are no longer needed for colorspace transforms, the edit and grading software looks after this for you. Arri Log-C will look like S-Log3 which will look like V-Log and then the same grade can be applied no matter what camera or colorspace was used. It will greatly simplify workflows once you understand what is happening under the hood and allows you to output both SDR and HDR versions without having to completely re-grade everything.

Unfortunately I don’t think the way Adobe are implementing their version of a colour managed workflow is very clear. There are too many automatic assumptions about what you want to do and how you want to handle your footage. On top of this there are insufficient controls for the user to force everything into a known set of settings. Instead different things are in different places and it’s not always obvious exactly what is going on under the hood. The color management tools are all small addons here and there and there is no single place where you can go for an overview of the start to finish pipeline and settings as there is in DaVinci Resolve for example. This makes it quite confusing at times and it’s easy to make mistakes or get an unexpected result.  There is more information about what Premiere 2022 is doing here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/faq-premiere-pro-2022-color-management-for-log-raw-media/