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Atomos Adds Raw Over SDI For The Ninja V via the AtomX.

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I know this is something A LOT of people have been asking for. For a long time it has always seemed odd that only the Shogun 7 was capable of recording raw from the FX9 and then the FX6 while the the little Ninja V could record almost exactly the same raw form the A7SIII.

Well the engineers at Atomos have finally figured out how to pass raw via the AtomX SDI adapter to the Ninja V. The big benefit of course being the compact size of the Ninja V.

There are a couple of ways of getting the kit you need to do this.

If you already have a Ninja V (they are GREAT little monitor recorders, I’ve taken mine all over the world, from the arctic to Arabian deserts) you simply need to buy an AtomX SDI adapter and once you have that buy a raw licence from the Atomos website for $99.00.

If you don’t have the Ninja V then you can buy a bundle called the “Pro Kit” that includes everything you need including a Ninja V with the raw licence pre-installed, The AtomX SDI adapter, a D-Tap power adapter cable, a mains power supply and a sun hood. The cost of this kit will be around $950 USD or £850 GBP + tax, which is a great price.

On top of that you will need to buy suitable fast SSD’s.

Like the Shogun 7 the Ninja V can’t record the 16 bit raw from the FX6 or FX9 directly, so Atomos take the 16 bit linear raw and convert it using a visually lossless process to 12 bit log raw. 12 bit log raw is a really nice raw format and the ProResRaw codec helps keep the files sizes nice and manageable.

This is a really great solution for recording raw from the FX6 and FX9. Plus if you already have an A7SIII you can use the Ninja V to record via HDMI from that too.

Here’s the press release from Atomos:

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The Atomos Ninja V Pro Kit is here to equip you with increased
professional I/O, functionality and accessories.

The Ninja V Pro Kit has been designed to bridge the gap between compact cinema and mirrorless cameras that can output RAW via HDMI or SDI. Pro Kit also pushes these cameras’ limits, recording up to 12-bit RAW externally on the Ninja’s onboard SSD. Additionally, Pro Kit provides the ability to cross covert signals providing a versatile solution for monitoring, play out and review.
 
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What comes in the Pro Kit?
  • Ninja V Monitor-Recorder with pre-activated RAW over SDI
  • AtomX SDI Module
  • Locking DC to D-Tap cable to power from camera battery
  • AtomX 5″ Sunhood
  • DC/Mains power with international adaptor kit
Ninja V Pro Kit offers a monitor and recording package to cover a wide range of workflows.
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Why choose Ninja V Pro Kit?
  • More powerful and versatile I/O for Ninja V – Expand your Ninja V’s capability with the Pro Kit with the ability to provide recordings in edit-ready codecs or as proxy files from RED or ARRI cameras.
  • Accurate and reliable daylight viewable HDR or SDR – To ensure image integrity, the AtomX 5″ Sunhood is included and increases perceived brightness under challenging conditions or can be used to dial out ambient light to increase the view in HDR
  • HDMI-to-SDI cross conversion – HDMI or SDI connections can be cross converted, 4K to HD down converts RAW to video signals to connect to other systems without the need for additional converters.
  • Record ProRes RAW via SDI to selected cameras*:
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  • Three ways to power your Ninja:
    – DC power supply – perfect for in the studio.
    – DTap cable – perfect for on-set, meaning your rig can run from a single power source.
    – Optional NPF battery or any four-cell NPF you might have in your kit bag. 
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The ProRes RAW Advantage
ProRes RAW is now firmly established as the new standard for RAW video capture, with an ever-growing number of supported HDMI and SDI cameras. ProRes RAW combines the visual and workflow benefits of RAW video with the incredible real-time performance of ProRes. The format gives filmmakers enormous latitude when adjusting the look of their images and extending brightness and shadow detail, making it ideal for HDR workflows. Both ProRes RAW and the higher bandwidth, less compressed ProRes RAW HQ are supported. Manageable file sizes speed up and simplify file transfer, media management, and archiving. ProRes RAW is fully supported in Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere Pro, Avid Media Composer 2020.10 update, along with a collection of other apps including ASSIMILATE SCRATCH, Colorfront, FilmLight Baselight, and Grass Valley Edius.
 
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Existing Ninja V and AtomX SDI module owners
While the Pro Kit offers a complete bundle, existing Ninja V owners can enhance their equipment to the same level by purchasing the AtomX SDI module for $199, and the New RAW over SDI and HDMI RAW to SDI video feature can also be added to the Ninja V via separate activation key from the Atomos website for $99. 

Existing AtomX SDI module owners will receive the SDI < > HDMI cross conversion for 422 video inputs in the 10.61 firmware update for Ninja V update. You will also be able to benefit from RAW over SDI recording with the purchase of the SDI RAW activation key. This feature will be available from the Atomos website in February 2021.
 
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Special Offer for Pro Kit buyers
The first batch of Ninja V Pro Kits will include a FREE Atomos CONNECT in the box.
Connect allows you to start streaming at up to 1080p60 directly from your Ninja V!
Learn more about Connect here.
 

Availability
The Ninja V Pro Kit is available to purchase from your local reseller.
Find your local reseller here.
$949 USD
EX LOCAL TAXES
*Selected cameras only – RAW outputs from Sony’s FS range (FS700, FS5, FS7) are NOT supported on Ninja V with AtomX SDI Module and RAW Upgrade. Support for these cameras is ONLY available on Shogun 7.
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11 thoughts on “Atomos Adds Raw Over SDI For The Ninja V via the AtomX.”

    1. I’m led to believe it’s due to either limited processing or limited memory space for different formats.

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  2. This is really great news – was torn between using the fairly expensive v90 cards along with a shinobi for monitoring, OR my Shogun Inferno to record ProRes 422 (not raw) which has always been just slightly too big for handheld work; this is really welcome as I’ve got loads of SSDs for my Ninja/Shogun already. So prob will buy the SDI/Raw upgrade for my Ninja V and maybe one CFexpress card for high frame rate work.

    Question: will the Ninja V work purely as a monitor when doing 100fps work to a CFexpress card?

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    1. It will work as a monitor at all frame rates, but of course when shooting 100/120 fps the camera only outputs at the base rate, not the HFR rate.

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      1. Thanks – one other question. The FS5 recorded a 1080p sort of backup onto SD cards when RAW + XAVC was selected. This came in handy exactly once for me when some footage from my Shogun came back damaged due to cold weather operation but that’s enough for me to do it all the time. Does the FX6 do the same (1080p XAVC when recording RAW) or has that been upped to 4K? Sorry it’s unclear in the manual…!

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  3. Thanks for useful information and great tips regarding recording raw from Fx9 and FX6.

    Just curious since I have a AXS-R5 collecting dust on the shelf; is it possible recording 16bit raw with the old Sony HXR-IFR5 (+R5) from FX9/FX6? I am not sure the sdi raw (in) on the HXR-IFR5 is compatible with raw out from these cameras… Will there be any quality benefits with this method compared to 12 bit prores raw on the Ninja?

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    1. The IFR5 won’t work with the FX6/FX9 as these now have a 16 bit output, the FS5 etc were all 12 bit. It’s a shame as the Sony Raw codec is very easy to work with an can be used directly in Resolve etc.

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  4. Too much to learn thanks to you Alister! Just one question. The prores raw from sony a7siii is log raw. Is the prores raw from FS5 also a log raw with the shogun inferno or Ninja V+ SDI module.

    Thanks again!

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    1. No, the ProResRaw from the FS5 is 12 bit linear as this is what the camera outputs which is why it is not nearly as good as the 12 bit Log raw that is recorded from the 16 bit linear that the A7SIII outputs.

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